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Re: The Final
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2009, 03:17:01 PM »
Spanish jury voting at the final

    * 1 pt - Germany
    * 2 pts - Israel
    * 3 pts - Azerbaijan
    * 4 pts - Ukraine
    * 5 pts - Moldova
    * 6 pts - Turkey
    * 7 pts - Portugal
    * 8 pts - France
    * 10 pts - Norway
    * 12 pts - United Kingdom

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Re: The Final
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2009, 03:18:24 PM »
Danish jury votes

1pt United Kingdom
2pt Portugal
3pt Russia
4pt Azerbaijan
5pt Lithuania
6pt France
7pt Germany
8pt . Estonia
10pt Norway
12pt Iceland

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Re: The Final
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2009, 04:35:05 PM »
well once again we see that norway was adored by both juries and televote.. each jury seems to have had a different 12 it is NOT that often Norway (it's even Iceland for the nordic juries like Finland or Denmark) but added to the televotes.. it automatically meant that Norway was the most liked from BOTH juries and televote and therefore this explains the HUGE victory it had.. if this system goes on, we will always have huge winners and boring votings..

well here are the things that imo are wrong : we can televote as much as we can, before 2004 it was only 3 times per phone imo that's better, and also ONLY finalists should be able to vote.. if these are not done, then I ask for 100% juries

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Re: The Final
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2009, 06:40:38 PM »
well once again we see that norway was adored by both juries and televote.. each jury seems to have had a different 12 it is NOT that often Norway (it's even Iceland for the nordic juries like Finland or Denmark) but added to the televotes.. it automatically meant that Norway was the most liked from BOTH juries and televote and therefore this explains the HUGE victory it had.. if this system goes on, we will always have huge winners and boring votings..

well here are the things that imo are wrong : we can televote as much as we can, before 2004 it was only 3 times per phone imo that's better, and also ONLY finalists should be able to vote.. if these are not done, then I ask for 100% juries

I also think that it's better to let only finalists vote in the final. I miss the days when the winner had only 150 points. Nowadays all the winners have more than 200 points , because so many countries can vote in the final.

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Re: The Final
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »
I also miss the days when there was a live orchestra and the days when singers were singers and not circus artists.  :(

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Re: The Final
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2009, 07:50:23 PM »
I miss the live orchestra too  :(

And I miss the days when all the artist were singing live.

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Re: The Final
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2009, 12:22:32 PM »
Macedonia probably wants to withdraw from the ESC next year.

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Re: The Final
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2009, 10:20:08 PM »
Spanish jury voting at the final

    * 1 pt - Germany
    * 2 pts - Israel
    * 3 pts - Azerbaijan
    * 4 pts - Ukraine
    * 5 pts - Moldova
    * 6 pts - Turkey
    * 7 pts - Portugal
    * 8 pts - France
    * 10 pts - Norway
    * 12 pts - United Kingdom

Really ?  :o  ???

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2009, 01:16:18 PM »
Israeli jury votes

1 punto - Bosnia & Herzegovina
2 puntos - Malta
3 puntos - Croatia
4 puntos - Moldova
5 puntos - UK
6 puntos - Armenia
7 puntos - Turkey
8 puntos - France
10 puntos - Norway
12 puntos - Iceland

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2009, 06:55:47 PM »
funny how most juries did prefer Iceland.. I agree with them though, Iceland was better than Norway imo..

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2009, 01:37:10 PM »
This is the way the Polish jury voted in the semi final:

1pt Lithuania
2pts Latvia
3pts Croatia
4pts Azerbaijan
5pts Ukraine
6pts Ireland
7pts Estonia
8pts Moldova
10pts Norway
12pts Denmark

This is Poland's combined vote in the second semi final:
1pt Denmark
2pts Greece
3pts Ireland
4pts Lithuania
5pts Moldova
6pts Albania
7pts Ukraine
8pts Estonia
10pts Norway
12pts Azerbaijan

Those are the results of the Polish jury in the final:
1pt France
2pts Russia
3pts Germany
4pts Estonia
5pts Iceland
6pts Moldova
7pts United Kingdom
8pts Ukraine
10pts Norway
12pts Denmark


This is the combined Polish vote in the Eurovision Song Contest final:

1pt Iceland
2pts Armenia
3pts Russia
4pts United Kingdom
5pts Moldova
6pts Azerbaijan
7pts Denmark
8pts Estonia
10pts Ukraine
12pts Norway

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2009, 01:37:47 PM »
 This is the way the Cypriot jury voted:

1pt Turkey
2pts Spain
3pts Malta
4pts Azerbaijan
5pts United Kingdom
6pts Estonia
7pts Norway
8pts Iceland
10pts Denmark
12pts Greece

This is the combined jury and televote of Cyprus:

1pt Russia
2pts Romania
3pts Estonia
4pts Armenia
5pts Iceland
6pts Denmark
7pts United Kingdom
8pts Azerbaijan
10pts Norway
12pts Greece

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2009, 10:26:03 PM »
the cypriot jury is so not fair and has disgusting taste.. i really think that island has rotten taste now.. bad songs, bad juries, bad singers..

poland is barely better

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2009, 02:36:28 PM »
This is the result of the televoting from Bosnia and Herzegovina in the final:

12pts Croatia
10pts Turkey
8pts Norway
7pts Greece
6pts Azerbaijan
5pts Albania
4pts Iceland
3pts Estonia
2pts Germany
1pt Romania

This is the way the B&H jury voted in the final:

12pts Israel
10 pts France
8pts Croatia
7 pts United Kingdom
6pts Portugal
5pts Norway
4pts Germany
3pts Armenia
2pts Sweden
1pt Turkey

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2009, 06:51:04 PM »
apart from Croatia this is a serious and very good jury imo. At least they voted for VOICES mostly it seems.

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »
Portugal votes in Final

JURY
1 point to Norway
2 points to Bosnia & Herzegovina
3 points to Israel
4 points to Denmark
5 points to Germany
6 points to Turkey
7 points to Iceland
8 points to Armenia
10 points to Moldova
12 points to United Kingdom

OVERALL (Jury + televoting)
1 point to Germany
2 points to Romania
3 points to Turkey
4 points to Armenia
5 points to Norway
6 points to Ukraine
7 points to Spain
8 points to Iceland
10 points to United Kingdom
12 points to Moldova

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »
I wanted to ask Does anybody have Esc Final? Song and voting and that all :)
I just wanna download it but im not yet find it...

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2009, 11:49:15 PM »
DUTCH votes

 The jury voted as follows:

    * Malta - 1 point
    * Israel - 2 points
    * Albania - 3 points
    * United Kingdom - 4 points
    * Denmark - 5 points
    * Germany - 6 points
    * Azerbaijan - 7 points
    * Iceland - 8 points
    * France - 10 points
    * Norway - 12 points

Results of televoting only:

    * Estonia - 1 point
    * France - 2 points
    * United Kingdom - 3 points
    * Iceland - 4 points
    * Greece - 5 points
    * Azerbaijan - 6 points
    * Bosnia and Herzegovina - 7 points
    * Norway - 8 points
    * Armenia 10 points
    * Turkey - 12 points

Total Dutch results (mixture of jury votes and televotes):

    * Greece - 1 point
    * Germany - 2 points
    * United Kingdom - 3 points
    * Bosnia and Herzegovina - 4 points
    * Armenia - 5 points
    * France - 6 points
    * Iceland - 7 points
    * Turkey - 8 points
    * Azerbaijan - 10 points
    * Norway - 12 points


a great jury vote! im so mad jury counts less than televote, iceland france and turkey all end up with 12 pts but since televote counts more france only gets 6 while it could have gotten 8pts!

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2009, 05:39:33 PM »


The Swiss jury team was built up from the following names:

    * Judith Wernli (radio, DRS 3)
    * Giovanni Zamai (Manager MTV Suisse)
    * Michael von der Heide (Singer and musician)
    * Jean-Marie Fontana (Director of Universal Music Switzerland)
    * Emel (Singer)

Here are the results of the voting:

    * 1 point for Moldova
    * 2 points  for Armenia
    * 3 points  for Estonia
    * 4 points for Sweden
    * 5 points for Israel
    * 6 points  for Iceland
    * 7 points  for Portugal
    * 8 points  for Turkey
    * 10 points for France
    * 12 points for Norway

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2009, 05:39:51 PM »


This is the full result of the French jury vote:

    * 12 - Israel
    * 10 - Norway
    * 8 - Denmark
    * 7 - Turkey
    * 6 - Germany
    * 5 - Estonia
    * 4 - United Kingdom
    * 3 - Lithuania
    * 2 - Azerbaijan
    * 1 - Armenia

Below, the combined result of jury vote and televote in France:

    * 12 - Turkey
    * 10 - Israel
    * 8 - Norway
    * 7 - Portugal
    * 6 - Armenia
    * 5 - Denmark
    * 4 - United Kingdom
    * 3 - Germany
    * 2 - Sweden
    * 1 - Azerbaijan

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2009, 03:34:03 AM »
Im surprised there's been no comments regarding the full results released today.

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2009, 05:04:58 AM »
Im surprised there's been no comments regarding the full results released today.
simply because there are no surprises.
the televote results are a disgrace and an insult to music : greece 5th, ukraine in top10 and france 17th!
the juries did try to save it up a little (israel, dk that even if some of us hate it still had an actual song and a simple performance)

my voice is very clear : 100% jury is the only way to go

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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2009, 05:37:11 AM »
simply because there are no surprises.

I always maintained hope of thinking the televoters had enough taste not to put Greece in the top 5 nor put Azerbaijan second. Obviously, I was wrong and all my hope for televoting was lost. There's no need to say that if those were to be the actual results 2009 would had been remembered by me far worse than what it's my current opinion of this year. Makes me wonder if this could have helped disastrous results years as 2005 or 2008 in getting better results (not much hope in 2008 though, considering the actual top ten :doh:)

the televote results are a disgrace and an insult to music

Indeed.


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Re: Moscow 2009 - The Final
« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2009, 09:58:12 AM »
2005 and 2008 and ALL the years with full televoting! the worst results for me were 2007 i had only ONE song in common with the actual top 10 :cry: (for once that Bulgaria sent a good song!)

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