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What is the best voting system in your opinion?

Only juries
5 (38.5%)
Only televoters
3 (23.1%)
Juries+televoters
5 (38.5%)

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Offline Remy

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Voting system
« on: May 31, 2009, 08:36:33 PM »
Let's talk about the voting system.

Only the juries gave points from 1956 till 1996.
In 1997 the televoting system was introduced in 5 countries. Austria, Switzerland, Germany, United Kingdom and Sweden used televote.
In the final of the ESC 2009, the votes from each country were decided by a combination of 50% televoting results and 50% national jury.

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What is the best voting system in your opinion?

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 08:50:49 PM »
I voted for only juries, because jury members are professionals in music and they can notice better everything than a normal televoter. Also, jury members can vote only one time, which does not distort the results the same way than televoters who can vote several times for one song. 

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 09:04:59 PM »
I voted for Juries+televoters because if televoters would not be allowed to vote and contribute to the esc history this way the contest would lose most of his fans. ESC would be just another show to watch.

Juries are meant to make sure that the contest will not turn into a cheap popularity contest.  :)

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 05:24:43 PM »
i don't care if we lose irrelevant people who only watch to vote for neighbors or countries of origins.. i voted for 100% juries

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 08:00:30 PM »
I choosed Jury and Televoting, because if will be only Jury, then they choose boring songs maybe
if will be only Televoting then will be only that neighbourg countries and they dont vote for song


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Re: Voting system
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 08:59:22 PM »
I doubt between juries+televoters and only juries.  :worry:

With televoting the people are more involved in the contest. It's fun that you can vote for your personal favorite.
But there is also the other side: countries who profit every year from neighbour voting.

I think that the voting system this year worked very well.

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 09:05:20 PM »
I choosed Jury and Televoting, because if will be only Jury, then they choose boring songs maybe
this is an ok argument but when we look at the juries results, apart from Iceland 2nd, Uk 3rd, France 4th, Israel 7th, Estonia and Bosnia did well too and Malta doing well, they did'nt vote just for ballads.. Norway was the juries' favorite! Denmark was a surprising 6th and Germany 13th!

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 11:55:18 PM »
Being an ESC purist I voted for Juries only.  Perhaps if that happened we'd stop the influx of crappy songs like Düm tek tek getting totally undeserved good results.

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2009, 06:33:41 PM »
this is an ok argument but when we look at the juries results, apart from Iceland 2nd, Uk 3rd, France 4th, Israel 7th, Estonia and Bosnia did well too and Malta doing well, they did'nt vote just for ballads.. Norway was the juries' favorite! Denmark was a surprising 6th and Germany 13th!

with only Jury should get Estonia that year better place if i remember right
But just i should wanna call too to my favourite  :laugh:

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 08:13:08 AM »
Being an ESC purist I voted for Juries only.  Perhaps if that happened we'd stop the influx of crappy songs like Düm tek tek getting totally undeserved good results.

I will have to vote for televoting then, because Dum Tek Tek ended up being so good, even though everyone thinks it's so undeserving, I don't at all, I  :heart: it.
Trashy doesn't mean crappy :P Classy doesn't mean good (eg France)  :doh:

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2009, 04:51:56 PM »
technically speaking, "trashy" EXACTLY means "crappy"

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 06:33:40 PM »
After seeing the results of the Dutch televoting this year (again 10 and 12 points to Armenia and Turkey, it's too predictable), I'm going for only juries.

Televoters can also vote mutiple times, so I think it's better when only juries bring out their votes.

A friend of mine voted for Turkey this year without even watching the whole show  :shrug:


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Re: Voting system
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 06:42:33 PM »
totally agreed Remy.. televoting is wrong wrong wrong because it's unfair and purely political now, whether some people admit it or not.. and give no rooms for other genres..

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2009, 07:37:44 PM »
totally agreed Remy.. televoting is wrong wrong wrong because it's unfair and purely political now, whether some people admit it or not.. and give no rooms for other genres..

Totally agree.. as the ridiculous amount of votes for Turkey, Armenia & Greece in the last few years shows.

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Re: Voting system
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 07:55:09 PM »
I found a nice video about the funniest moments in the Eurovision Voting.  :rofl: :haha:



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Re: Voting system
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2015, 01:57:49 AM »
It's interesting how the voting seems to have been politicised to a significant extent regardless of the system used.  Also, the expansion of the contest to bring in other countries with different voting preferences has probably politicised the vote far more than any of the systems used.  I used to like the old jury system, but the fifty-fifty system used now seems fair enough to me, although it sometimes throws up some curious results.  It rarely results in an unworthy winner.

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