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Nordic countries 2009
« on: January 17, 2009, 07:42:51 PM »
Well as I follow very closely the national finals, I can say that so far, and without the great and highly expected Melodifestivalen latest edition, the nordic countries take a very fine and clear advantage.

The Finnish final has had two disappointing shows live-wise, but out of 12 songs there are 9 extremely good entries, including a couple of true awesome songs, and the huge masterpiece that is "Meren" by Riikka. But Passionworks, Waldo's people, Jari, Sani, Kwan or Remu have all great things to offer. The Icelandic songs are very accomplished and thought out, even if two or three are weak, the average is quite high. Norway's songs are extremely competent and I can honestly say that three have "masterpiece" material and only the lives will fulfill their masterpiece nature or not (songs by Publiners, Alexander Rybak and most of all the one by Tine Wulff)

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 12:57:11 AM »
I agree that Rikka's Meren was (is) an huge masterpiece. It will probably be one of my highlights of this NF season. Not too sure about Iceland yet (haven't listened to most songs, and the ones that I did listen to, like ''Is it true?'', definitely didn't convince me. The norwegian first semi was very nice all around, but I sadly think that they already completely eliminated 2 very competent songs. It would have been nice to see Chicas del Coro perform again, but I'm completely baffled at how Kesera didn't even manage to get 2nd chance, at least Charite was correctly eliminated.

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 01:45:15 AM »
Completely agreed again.. "Meren" well is a "duh.." to anyone who has ears..
then Iceland, well the good one just came out, go check Kaja Halldórsdóttir's "Lygin Ein" you'll see what I mean

as for Norway TOTALLY AGREED.. I hadn't taken interest in the first semi which believe it or not is by far the weakest one around.. but Kesera were already the "nicest" ones.. with Espen Hara's "Two Of a Kind".. and then "Men, men, men" which was the 50's like fun.. but live it was a totally different story.. while the Nowegians went for the two bubbly pop entries that went last.. KeSera made the biggest live ever for a rap song in an NF putting Signmark to shame (and Signmark won its semi!)

now let's talk about Denmark. The songs are out and like Finland the songs are all pretty much convincing but I can tell how some will be awful live already.. On the other hand, Marie's "Crying out your name" is highly convincing as for the jazzy ballad type, Brinck has an awful song but.. he's way sexy.. and then there are TWO great songs audio wise, which will maybe be tough to sing live but we can always hope, it's "Alice in Wonderland" so TYPICAL of the pop rock we gotta adore.. and then.. "Big Bang Baby" i know the title is awful i thought "oh MY GOD" at first but actually.. it's in Danish and it's very very very convincing, at least well sung with a good melody.. Then there's the usual funky goody here "Lucky boy" but it's gonna get soon irritating..

and MF's site is up and OH MY it's exciting already!

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 02:09:12 AM »
Hmm... still haven't listened to the danish entries (and I won't probably hear them until the NF already passed) but it is true that I'm interested in the quite bashed Marie's song. If it is so bashed by fans it must be good...

So I'm gonna listen to that one... let's see... slightly Disney-meets-Jazz in the beginning isn't it? It's quite nice, it could actually make a surprise if she can pull this song off live. I still think it's a bit Disney-ish though.

I'm anxious about the new Caroline af Ugglas song in MF. Still love her previous (ill-ridden) attempt. Normally MF brings me at least 1 song that I really like, so I am too expecting that NF.

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 02:33:24 AM »
Caroline af ugglaaaaaaaaaas? GET OUTTA HERE
she was my 3rd in mf 07! LOVED her i thought i was alone in the world

it's SO obvious this 09 year is gonna be her and BWO (again.. they're my huge faves each time.. except when The Ark is there and they're not..)

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 07:51:01 PM »
hahaha another Af Ugglas fan here :P

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2009, 05:31:33 PM »

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 06:38:32 PM »
I always have considered Denmark as the weakest overall of the nordics, but I kind of prefer their NFs than the Icelandic ones. MGP is entertaining, MF is a big nice show with regurlaly bad results for some amazing songs, but hey, they still gave those amazing songs the chance to perform, and Euroviisut has been a really good NF in the last 4 years. (Specially in Lordi's and Hanna P's years)

well it's because Denmark unlike Iceland made some terrible choices.. DQ way back from second chance to win the show was an esc disaster! The Johnny twist was terrible and lame. On the other hand, Denmark got back on track with a simple but effective entry last year. Iceland might have too much of a crazy show (i mean how long was the NF in 2008 again? five months or what?), but they turned out quite ok.. In 2006 they totally owned the semifinal (even if I hate the "song"), in 2007 they made a very fine choice with a great singer whose mistake was to change it to English.. both 13th in their semi, the new format helped them get in the final, with an awesome duo made of two awesome singers, sure the song's big pop, but in its best possible sense.

Melodifestivalen is made of 16 big names and usual pop, and 16 tough luck entries, who are different every year and have the chance to be performed live on the big big big MF stage (and beautiful too).. for foreigners, it's an awesome way to get at what's best in Sweden.. And you say bad results, but not always.. thanx to TELEVOTE (and not the damned juries), Marie Lindberg made it to 5th in 2007! An awesome choice! The Ark winning with the biggest pts ever in melodifestivalen (248pts, only Afro-Dite got the same amount in 2002) is also a good sign. Sure Charlotte's victory put everybody to sadness in a big *sigh* of Sweden and its pop, but after all, the MF was still awesome to watch and follow. Definitely the line up is better than Esc, for even the bad songs have something "good" in them, the way its performed, the style, the overall tone.. something that many countries like Bulgaria, Belarus, Moldova and others fail to achieve.. when they're bad, they're really bad. MF ain't like that, it's got always something cool to enjoy.

As for Finland, every one here knows my love for the country and for the country's esc history. Euroviisut is always a big moment of the NF period, because its weirdness, its rockish attitude, or something makes it very worth it. They often came up with not the best possible choice, but there's always something rocky to enjoy (Kilpi, Lovex, Thunderstone, Crumbland) or just plain good (Riiiiiiiiiiiikka!!!!!!!)

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2009, 09:08:33 PM »
I actually quite preferred Charlotte's song to Sanna's. That kind of ballad does absolutely nothing to me... and pardon the pun, but the song just felt empty.

Ah! Marie Lindberg... stupid, stupid juries. Gotta love her Trying to recall, still regularly listen to it.
 
My problem with Denmark (whose NF I'm watching right now actually) it's exactly what you mentioned, weak choices. I differ with you about Denmark 2008 though, that song, just like their 2005 attempt, was just terrible. And I don't know about Talking to you, but there were definitely better  choices in the 2008 DMGP.

Oh, first danish performance now... gotta watch :P

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2009, 09:18:54 PM »
I prefer Charlotte's song to Sanna's too
but the males were very powerful in MF 2008 : apart from Bodies Without Organs, absolutely best, there were Eskobar, Fronda, Brandur and a level a bit below, Nordman or Rongedal and also Ola is cute.. so Sanna and Charlotte are kinda lost there.. but Charlotte was the most professional and accomplished on MF stage for sure..

Denmark made terrible choice, "Talking to you" and "All night long" worked for me enough to be in the top 20 of their years, but I wouldn't call them "great song" either..

I'm late for the danish final just got around the computer :(

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 04:42:11 AM »
well i don't know if you've noticed the fact that both Norway and Finland share the very similar use of "boxes" on the back of the stage, hanging from the ceiling, creating a very good looking pattern of lights and colors.. Enjoyable.. the Danish hosting was flat out brilliant (but what an awful outcome!) and Iceland's hosting is pretty nice actually, though it doesn't feel accomplished, maybe because we're only at heats so far..
have you guys seen the MF stage? it looks amazing (beyond what Moscow showed us so far for 2009)

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 08:19:30 PM »
I'm hopelessly addicted to La voix...

What can I say, popera is my guilty pleasure.

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 08:37:40 PM »
I'm hopelessly addicted to La voix...

What can I say, popera is my guilty pleasure.
Don't worry.. theres nothing to be ashamed of in liking La Voix :P

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2009, 09:21:35 PM »
it's funny we don't comment on MF even though we all must watch it (all videos are on here)

Here's my top 10 of MF 2009, it was a very weak edition, compared to past years : there were much more ABBA europop entries than usual, and most of all, they all qualified to the final while all the best songs are either out or in second chance! MF is making me hugely mad this year!

01st 24   Bodies Without Organs   "You're Not Alone"
02nd 7    Caroline Af Ugglas   "Snälla, Snälla"
03rd 27   Susanne Alfvengren   "Du Är Älsjard Där Du Går"
04th 18   Rigo & The Topaz Sound feat. Red Fox   "I Got U"
05th 1    Nina Söderquist   "Tick Tock"
06th 12   H.E.A.T.   "1000 Miles"
07th 5    Emilia   "You're My World"
08th 16   Måns Zelmerlöw   "Hope & Glory"
09th 10   Lasse Lindh & Bandet   "Jag Ska Slåss I Dina Kvarter!"
10th 32   Malena Ernman   "La Voix"

However, SVT every year favors song that goes LAST as #32.. in 2006 Carola (winner), in 2007 Andreas (2nd), in 2008 Charlotte (winner) moreover, the big fave always goes in the last semi anyway, in 2004 Lena Ph (winner) and in 2005 Nanne Gronvall (2nd).. Frederik Kempe is a HUGE favorite composer/author of MF and teaming with Malena was a very smart move.. to me there are no no no no no doubts of who is going to win this MF. I've said it everywhere way before we even heard the song. We knew it was popera by Frederik Kempe.. It will win without a shadow of a doubt, my prediction being 2nd Mans' "Hope & Glory" and 3rd Molly's boring ballad.

However, though it's in French, different, and well, just amazingly sung, I don't see "La Voix" being that high in my list or doing that well in Moscow!

Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Finland have chosen. All we need is Sweden then we can vote to see which one is our favorite lol

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 09:50:42 PM »
I'm still surprised at how INCREDIBLY underrated was Susanne's song. And it's a shame that, when BWO finally gave us a good song (after oh so long), they decided to fail to qualify :doh:

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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 11:49:56 PM »
i love BWO very much and well they've been my #1 in 2006 and 2008 already, and #5 in 2005 with the very underrated "Gone" (by then BWO weren't famous enough to get to Second Chance)..
I love their big electropop songs with the funky attitudes, but "You're not alone" might be their best ever, very strong vocals by Martin I was surprised he's usually weak, the "gospel" twist in the middle felt very charming and so not expected from them.. yes and the entire play of the "we're not alone in the universe" answered by the "you're not alone" and the space ship performance was strong too.

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2009, 10:47:48 PM »
Caroline!!  :sing:  :heart: :heart:

BEST AC RESULTS EVER (SDF included admitelly, she was the best from her half, though, as I mentioned before, I could've accepted BWO).

Int. jury... I think they've chosen the biggest of the two evils to be honest... I'd rather have Amy.

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Re: Nordic countries 2009
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 07:23:45 PM »
i think the int. jury is the biggest **** ever, of course they went for the greek song oh my god how insulting.. amy was the most ridiculous choice ever

if only the int. jury had chosen BWO instead of Sodia, then they'd have been in the final where they belong! instead of the fat and boring flying-chiara like sarah..

but yes ultimately one and only one thing remains : caroliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine :heart:

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