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Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« on: February 01, 2009, 09:34:21 PM »
well im watching the high quality live streaming
so far, we watched old hits by the trio.. it's ALL lousy songs, but I can see that doing well with Europe actually..

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 09:36:44 PM »
song 1 "Our Night"
easy going pop disco very 70s
it works fine but i can't help thinking they look dumb and ridiculous in their sparkly outfits!

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 09:40:55 PM »
song 2 "Angel Of The Light"
typically start slow and then keeps on going
many effects on stage, light, an angel flying..
it looks fine, and with the very 70s on going, this could work fine on a big Moscow stage..

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 09:45:51 PM »
oh god NO I HATE "Eres tu" :doh:
it's like a pause with old esc "goodies" or supposed to be goodies, I hate Spain 1973
and then UK 73 which allowed them to move to UK 68 with Cliff Richard.. and then UK 76 : AWFUL
gosh both uk and spain 73 but of course nothing of the Luxembourgish/French winner.. that sucks!

and now Ireland 1980 and now the english version of Sweden 1984..

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 09:52:46 PM »
i hate it when people ALWAYS forget that, OH, France/Luxembourg/Monaco sent the first esc evergreens, DAMN IT
and oh yes, all esc is not just the 70s! :doh:

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 09:56:05 PM »
song #3 "Everybody Can Be A Star"
It is everything of a radio hit.. live it's rather lousy! and OH MY GOD these guys can't dress to save their lives
the backing singers are really good!

ps: it sounds a LOT like "Sugar Baby Love"

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 09:56:56 PM »

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Topper
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 09:59:18 PM »
hello there my Irish Star ;)

song #4 "Three Is A Magic Number"
just one word : awful, the typical pop CRAP

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 10:02:33 PM »
now a medley with Dutch esc songs and NF songs
so far so good : I love NL 88!!
they also had NL 75, NL 80 performed by Maggie, NL 77 performed by the singer herself, quite aged, but still good
NL 69 by everyone, a classic

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2009, 10:03:49 PM »
This is the funniest preselection ever :lol:

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 10:12:52 PM »
song #5 "Nobody Loves Me Like You"
typical, poppy, still awful clothes
nothing nothing nothing

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2009, 10:19:02 PM »
Sometimes I'm good but when I'm bad I'm even better

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2009, 10:20:41 PM »
song #6 "Shine"
awesome performance.. by the backing singers
De Toppers are typically themselves I'm tired of them already
typical boring pop YET AGAIN wow 6th in a row

my ranking tonight is :
02 - De Toppers - Angel Of The Night
03 - De Toppers - Everybody Can Be A Star
06 - De Toppers - Shine
01 - De Toppers - Our Night
05 - De Toppers - Nobody Loves Me Like You
04 - De Toppers - Three Is A Magic Number

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2009, 10:23:26 PM »
song #6 "Shine"

 :doh: Again that song title meant to reach the sky high.   :-\

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - De Toppers
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2009, 10:27:30 PM »
an HOUR to vote.. as they have some talk shows on and then back for results *Sigh*

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 11:56:21 PM »
the battle was very clear between "Angel Of The Night" which won 12pts from all 5 juries and ended with 60pts and "Shine" which won 4 tens and 1 8pts so a total of 48pts

but the televote made it clear, 130pts for "Angel" for 201 for "Shine" therefore the later will be at Moscow's stage
it's very poppy to what NL has sent in recent years (like 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008)

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 11:59:11 PM »
sorry My Star but you posted the video of Slovenia by mistake, i changed it to the video of "Shine"

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 12:16:17 AM »
It reminds me UK 2007. I hated so much that song. Is not worst than UK 2007, but I think will be in my bottom anyway.

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 01:30:00 PM »
I was actually waiting something worse, so it was a nice surprise that this song is not THAT bad. But - some questions:

1) Don't we already have enough of this kind of "we-are-so-happy-and-everything-is-so-cool-damn-cool" schlagers in the history of ESC ?

2) Even if the name of the song is "Shine", why do they have to wear silver-coloured suits. Aren't they already a little bit too old for that kind of dresses?  :-[ And why do they have white shoes with those suits - they don't fit together at all!

3) Is it only me who thinks, that this kind of songs have given to ESC the bad image which it has got ?

I am terribly sorry, but I can't see this in the final, even if this is better than Turkey and Montenegro, which still stay as my bottom nr 1 and 2 songs.   :-[

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 09:58:44 PM »
1) Don't we already have enough of this kind of "we-are-so-happy-and-everything-is-so-cool-damn-cool" schlagers in the history of ESC ?
I said earlier that this sounds actually a LOT Dutch.. that's the happy schlagers that the NL has been feeding us these recent years : 2000 "No Goodbyes" or 2003 "One More Night" especially but Edislia's 2007 entry as well
I'm mad at NL forgetting that their last great entry actually did make them qualify from the semifinal, and that was with a rather unusual ballad in 2004!

2) Even if the name of the song is "Shine", why do they have to wear silver-coloured suits. Aren't they already a little bit too old for that kind of dresses?  :-[ And why do they have white shoes with those suits - they don't fit together at all!
oh my god you should have watched the show.. they had like a thousand different costumes and they all sucked terribly!

3) Is it only me who thinks, that this kind of songs have given to ESC the bad image which it has got ?
No you're absolutely right and that's absolutely why the West and mainly Netherlands have done so poorly lately (or Scooch also it's the same idea).. they think that esc is sucky so they agree to send very cheesy pop to esc thinking "this is what esc is about" but for the East, their own songs are not cheesy pop and they like it that way, but don't like the West's cheesy pop and expect better from us.. After all, France 2008 "Divine" which was definitely different got almost all of its points from Nordic country (who as we know like the techno music and have humor) and from eastern european countries.. but apart from a 2pts from the UK, France got no pts from its neighbors in 2008!

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2009, 07:42:19 PM »
OMG - what were they thinking.  Lyrically a blatant rip off of Love Shine A Light (same sentiment but a damn sight cheesier).  As Morgan says it's just typical of the old ESC nations to send something like this because it's seen as "what ESC is about".  Predictable, cheesy, old-fashioned and completely without hope.

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2009, 11:13:25 AM »
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No you're absolutely right and that's absolutely why the West and mainly Netherlands have done so poorly lately (or Scooch also it's the same idea).. they think that esc is sucky so they agree to send very cheesy pop to esc thinking "this is what esc is about" but for the East, their own songs are not cheesy pop and they like it that way, but don't like the West's cheesy pop and expect better from us.. After all, France 2008 "Divine" which was definitely different got almost all of its points from Nordic country (who as we know like the techno music and have humor) and from eastern european countries.. but apart from a 2pts from the UK, France got no pts from its neighbors in 2008!

It's true that most of the entries from The Netherlands in this decade were poor (2000, 2004, 2006, 2008) because we send singers who are not even populair in our own country. I never heard of Linda Wagenmakers (2000), Michelle (2001), Esther Hart (2003),  Re-Union (2004), Glennis Grace (2005) and Treble (2006) before their Eurovision-participation.

But in my opinion some entries were not bad. I like One More Night from Esther Hart (2003) and On Top Of The World from Edsilia Rombley (2007).
And then the song for this year. I think it was the best song in the national final, but I have read some reactions on youtube and I see that many people don't like it. I'm afraid we are not gonna make it to the final again.

I hope that The Netherlands will send Dutch songs in the future. There are really cool Dutch songs.  8)

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2009, 02:43:58 PM »
It's true that most of the entries from The Netherlands in this decade were poor (2000, 2004, 2006, 2008) because we send singers who are not even populair in our own country. I never heard of Linda Wagenmakers (2000), Michelle (2001), Esther Hart (2003),  Re-Union (2004), Glennis Grace (2005) and Treble (2006) before their Eurovision-participation.

But in my opinion some entries were not bad. I like One More Night from Esther Hart (2003) and On Top Of The World from Edsilia Rombley (2007).
And then the song for this year. I think it was the best song in the national final, but I have read some reactions on youtube and I see that many people don't like it. I'm afraid we are not gonna make it to the final again.

I hope that The Netherlands will send Dutch songs in the future. There are really cool Dutch songs.  8)

I really liked Edsilia's "On Top Of The World" very much - it was even in my top 10. I would have preferred it though in Dutch.

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Re: Netherlands 2009 - The Toppers - Shine
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »
What i heard wasnt bad but what i saw didnt win me ...!
5/10!

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