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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2009, 03:27:23 AM »
mostly agree on everything but one entry
and now im the one surprised to not see BULGARIA nor ROMANIA in your bottom!!

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2009, 03:37:29 AM »


Hungary
Zoli Adok
Dance with me
(34th)


Come on, dance with me, make me lose my way
Take a chance with me, make my body sway
It's an overload in a disco fantasy
Let's dance the night away



Rhyming 'way' with 'sway' and 'me' with... well, 'me'', wow, what bravery.
Surely this sounds pleasant in some levels, but it's still pretty much bad.

I admit I had a little hope this didn't turn up like the pics of the rehearsals I had seen when I saw this start, but no, he had to do an instant and innefective dress change, didn't he? Well, at least he won justifiedly that Barbara Dex award.

Oh, and you just gotta hate his performance (but nobody denies that the guy can do acrobatics).



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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2009, 03:46:10 AM »


Slovenia
Quartissimo feat. Martina
Love symphony
(33th)


Imagine you and me
We're flying above the sea
Feeling free in this love symphony



C'mon Martina, it wasn't like you had to sing that much, did you really had to scream that much?
Screamfests don't work, that's a proven fact, the song has it's positive things admitelly and it might be slightly underrated in this ranking now that I think about it, but meh, I'll let the ranking I made stay that way for now. Do consider that it might be slightly underrated.

About the negative side, for starters, the screamings, the constant repetition of the musical parts and for an entry so depending on the quartet it's quite unforgivable to receive such an average instrumental part. It's kinda nice-ish still, but meh, the performance ruined it (predictably, sadly)


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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2009, 03:51:47 AM »


Czech Republic
Gipsy.cz
Aven Romali
(32th)


(Aven Romale)   
If you really wanna understand, just sing it with me: ada dadadai...   
(Aven Romale)   
I can make you really sing like Gipsy: adadada adadada...   
(Aven Romale)   
If you really wanna understand, just sing it with me: ada dadadai...   
(Aven Romale)   
I can make you really feel like Gipsy   
Music is the miracle, rhythm is the mirror, that's right



Gotta love these guys. Sure, the performance was an absolute chaos, the song lacked any instant appeal whatsoever and that combined by the terrible 2nd draw awarded these guys with one of the most obvious nul points since a long time ago. The song is alright, a bit too chaotic for my liking, but it's not truly hate material. So why do I love these guys so much?

Easy, now Kabat is no longer the worst scoring Czech entry! Their honour has been restored! And it's meritory that such a masterpiece is no longer the worst scoring entry of their country.

Ok-ish entry in it's own right.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2009, 03:59:53 AM »


Bulgaria
Krassimir Avramov
Illusion
(31th)


Give me, give me your time
Show me, show me you're mine
(So I want your touch) 'Cause I want your touch
(Baby, need you much) Baby, need you so much



:sing: Being a Bart, from a farm  :sing:

Ah, the lovely bulgarian chaos  :heart:. This entry is so wrong in so many levels and so horrible in some others that it actually ends up being so bad it's funny. Admitelly this opinion is mainly formed after watching the misread lyrics video (that I recommend you all to watch), but honestly, this is awesomely bad.

Even if the song was bad enough in it's own right, Krassimir decided to go and ruin it even more with an incredibly awful vocal rendition of it (with accompanying horrible backing singers). They did give a good show on the positive side, and those stilt dancers are actually pretty awesome, but the rest was just terrible (-y funny)

And even if objetively that shouldn't be a reason to get this so ''high'' in the ranking, the truth is that for the wrong reasons or not, I enjoy this more than the entries below this (ranking-wise).

 :sing: See all my veins... eeewwwwwwwwww all my veins  :sing:




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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2009, 04:05:02 AM »


Albania
Kejsi Tola
Carry me in your dreams
(30th)


Take my love, take my heart
Carry me with you in your dreams
No, no, never let go
Wonder of love, magical glow



I'd guess I'm one of the few persons who thinks the green dancer wasn't actually such a bad idea, in general, I find the choreography performed by the 3 dancers + Kejsi to be pretty cleverly done and was rather enjoyable...

...Unlike the song

The song itself was rather standard, sure, it is better than what Olta Boka screamed us at last year, and the little ethnic part about the middle of the song is actually rather beautiful, but the rest is rather meh. The chorus is weak, and in certain songs like this one, the chorus is what (sadly or not) defines the song. So even if it has it's few enjoyable things, this ends up as my 30th entry.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2009, 04:09:46 AM »


The Netherlands
The Toppers
The Shine
(29th)


(Shine)
People, let your light shine
Let the darkness fade away
Step into a brighter day
Don't forget about our world today



I swear this sounds like a cheap anime opening (talking about cheap ones, there are some very meritory anime openings, actually, most of them), this particularly reminds me of the Inuyasha first opening kind of cheapness. Is it enjoyable? Yes. Is it cheap? You betcha. Does it have musical merit? Do pigs fly?

On the positive side, they can vocally perform rather well. Rather surprisingly, the performance itself was waaaay less shiny than expected (did Sweden took all the shiny stuff for them?).



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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2009, 04:15:31 AM »


Slovakia
Kamil Mikulčík & Nela Pocisková
Let tmou
(28th)


We must come out of the shadows, intrigues and words
Give your heart, don't despair, and fly through the darkness



Ah, we are reaching the entries I actually don't have much to complain about and are rather good (yup, I actually pretty much like this 2009 contest). Slovakia presented us with an entry with amazing singers, amazing lyrics, in fact, amazing everything but one thing...

... the song doesn't really work somehow. It kinda lacks instant appeal, or even second listening appeal, it is a little too forgettable and I'd imagine the fact that the lyrics were not readed by the viewers of most other countries (sans probably Estonia) might have seriously damaged this little one chances. A brave entry and a good return for Slovakia, hope they keep trying.

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2009, 04:16:58 AM »
And that's it for my bottom 15. Any surprises in the ranking itself? (barring the lack of Romania Morgan already commented on)

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2009, 04:23:35 AM »
well chosing romania above slovakia is choosing crap shaky pop entries to esc instead of vocals or nice entries.. now im the one who doesnt get you.. at least i'm very consistent with what i think esc should be!

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2009, 04:28:46 AM »
well chosing romania above slovakia is choosing crap shaky pop entries to esc instead of vocals or nice entries.. now im the one who doesnt get you.. at least i'm very consistent with what i think esc should be!

Oh, the Slovakian entry has plenty of merit, but I just can't remember most of it at all. It completely passes through me.
Does it have musical merit? Plenty.
Should it be above other entries basing ourselves solely on musical merits? Heck yes!
Can I remember how it goes? Nope

I can't put it higher than that due to that.
Sigh fine, I'll do two rankings more...

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2009, 04:32:36 AM »


Belarus
Petr Elfimov
Eyes that never lie
(27th)


All my life I waited
Thinking I would never fly
Then you looked and saw my wings
With your eyes that never lie


Like many other countries, Belarus presented us with an enjoyable if inoffensive rockish song. You just can't send an entry that won't get the people voting for it, going out of their way picking up their phones and spending their money on sending you to the semis. Well, you can't send that if you expect to pass the semi, that is. Belarus sent that, we all know the result.

Still a very enjoyable entry with a rather curious performance.

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2009, 04:38:34 AM »


Romania
Elena Gheorghe
The Balkan Girls
(26th)


The Balkan girls, they like to party
Like nobody, like nobody
(For crowd delight, we'll shine all night)
The Balkan girls, they like to party
Like nobody, like nobody
(For crowd delight, we'll shine all night)


*sarcasm* Oh, 26th! Such a high position! How dare Lonter do that! *sarcasm stop*

Let's sum up a couple of facts about this entry:

- Romania probably have chosen the worst entry of their final in the NF (in the semis there were many that were worse)
- The choreography is rather stupid
- The lyrics are rather stupid
- The song itself sounds alright
- Elena is a nice performer

I mean, even worst case scenario, the song is pleasant to the ears. Does it have much musical merit?, nah, did it deserve a higher position? Nah, did it deserve to pass the semi? Probably yes actually.

Maybe its' the fact that this is one of the sole classical uptempos that haven't been completely destroyed live, but hey, I do enjoy this one.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2009, 04:41:13 AM »
I'll present my next 15 tomorrow, leaving place for my top 10 which will be bashed by Morgan most surely as it does include 1 (and just 1 at least) entry from his bottom 10 xD



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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2009, 06:25:17 PM »
I'll present my next 15 tomorrow, leaving place for my top 10 which will be bashed by Morgan most surely as it does include 1 (and just 1 at least) entry from his bottom 10 xD
i bet it's Cyprus! well i tend to be a bit brutal but it's for music's sake.. well I guess I'll wait until you're done til I do mine because else people will get confused.. And I also have a song in my top 10 in your bottom 10

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2009, 07:19:31 PM »
Why is everyone ranking Turkey above #40 :doh:.  Lonter commented numerous times about songs with no merit and bad performances....yet the song with the least merit and the worst performance isn't in the bottom....:doh:

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2009, 07:22:34 PM »
Oh, the Slovakian entry has plenty of merit, but I just can't remember most of it at all. It completely passes through me.
Does it have musical merit? Plenty.
Should it be above other entries basing ourselves solely on musical merits? Heck yes!
Can I remember how it goes? Nope


I know what you mean.  Exactly my thoughts on Slovenia 2005 - I listen to it and think it's quite good - then 2 seconds after it's finished I remember absolutely nothing about it whatsoever (other than it's called Stop).  It's not that it's bad....it's just that it doesn't stay with you the same way something like....(think of a song both me and Lonter like....:scratch: come on there must be one...:scratch:...oh yes) Lithuania 07 does.

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2009, 09:17:32 PM »
I know what you mean.  Exactly my thoughts on Slovenia 2005 - I listen to it and think it's quite good - then 2 seconds after it's finished I remember absolutely nothing about it whatsoever (other than it's called Stop).  It's not that it's bad....it's just that it doesn't stay with you the same way something like....(think of a song both me and Lonter like....:scratch: come on there must be one...:scratch:...oh yes) Lithuania 07 does.
i actually really like Slovenia 2005 and really well remember it! On the other hand I find Lithuania 2007 full of merit but can't seem to really enjoy it per se. And Turkey would come really soon in my list, but I'm not going to continue it until Lonter is done his.

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2009, 02:53:11 AM »


Turkey
Hadise
Dum tek tek
(25th)


Can you feel the rhythm in my heart?
The beat's going düm tek tek
Always out it like there's no limit
Feels like there's no way back


Turkey is like a catchier oriental-ish version of the romanian song just rather badly performed (at near Sakis levels), however, this one was always a frontrunner for the possible victory (unlike Sakis) for one single reason. The song is just much, much better for an uptempo (which means is probably way worse than any other song of any other genre). In simpler words, while Sakis suckiness only was one of the many, many problems that conformed the musical disaster known as This is our night, Hadise's performance was one of the few problems that were in Dum tek tek.

Oh, also the song is stupid, but we all knew that, and hey, it's pleasantly catchy. Honestly surprised this was beaten by the likes of Azerbaijan. (while sadly not surprised that this has beaten far more meritory songs)


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2009, 02:57:00 AM »


Ireland
Sinead Mulvey & Black Daisy
Et cetera
(24th)


Et cetera (Et cetera)
I heard that old song many times
But I still believe you really wanted her
I spent the day (I spent the day)
Deciding should I go or stay
Hoping that the pain would go away


It's somewhat catchy, the melody is somewhat bothersome, but it's bearable and can be enjoyed from time to time. It does sound like something that came off from a Disney Channel movie or somethign like that though, with the (scarce) positive and negative things associated to that,. There's not much to bash, although neither there is much to praise

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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2009, 03:04:21 AM »


Sweden
Malena Ernman
La voix
(23th)


I love you, my love, when I hear the voice
I love you, my life is never without you
I live my life for you, it's the universe for me
I love you, my love, when I hear the voice


Ah, one of the many guilty pleasures in this ESC. For starters, the choreography performed in ESC was completely hideous (specially the side-stepping part, ugh) and the only cool thing about it all (the head moves when the dancers put on their masks) had to be eliminated in order to accomodate live singing (great rules there Bjorkman!). Also, worst thing of all, this is the reason why we didn't have the chance to enjoy the awesomest first seven songs in a contest ever (well, if the juries hadn't saved Croatia either) since this was the heretic that has beaten the magnificent Caroline af Ugglas.

On the positive side, it's whole cheesyness kind of works actually, the song itself is rather enjoyable and deserved it's spot on the final.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2009, 03:12:41 AM »


Malta
Chiara Siracusa
What if we?
(22th)


What if we could be free?
Mystify our wisdom in time
And one day we'll see
What if we found the key?
Throw the dice, unravel our lies
And learn how to be


Damn she's good.
You just gotta love Chiara, she knows how to work her songs and try to sell anything she's performing, no matter how good or bad it is, as a masterpiece we should fall heads over and vote for desperately. Alas, the public didn't buy her product this time, but that's isn't that much of her fault actually.

I mean, she was utterly robbed of a surprising victory back in 1998, and she lost again in 2005 against the inferior greek song, but this time, this time, she didn't really came close... why? For starters her song has less broad appeal than the ones before, she didn't perform it nearly as well as her previous two attempts (she still did great though) and part of her weapons to win the public over were severely weakened by other countries (you aren't the only one performing alone this time Chiara). 

I enjoy the song, I find it different than her previous two attempts and wholeheartedly hope that her promise of coming back AGAIN it's actually true, for starters, because I like her and enjoy her, and also because more Chiara also means less Faniellos.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2009, 03:18:06 AM »


The United Kingdom
Jade Ewen
My time
(21th)


It's my time, it's my time
My moment, I'm not gonna let go of it
My time, it's my time
And I'll stand proud
There's nothing I'm afraid of
I'll show you what I'm made of
Show you all it's my time now


Thank you Diane Warren for sadly proving that successful lyrics most of the time don't equal good lyrics.

Miss Ewen had an interesting ballad which gave the UK it's best result since 2002, the song was completely ALW-ish and it showed, which has it's negative (predictability, the whole heard-it-all-before reaction) and positive (it somehow works out well, ends up in a rather fantastic way) sides. The performance of the night was quite nice and I must say I've enjoyed it, and even if I think it shouldn't have finished that high I guess I'm kinda happy it did end in that position.



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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2009, 03:27:12 AM »


Norway
Alexander Rybak
Fairytale
(20th)


I'm in love with a fairytale
Even though it hurts
'Cause I don't care if I lose my mind
I'm already cursed


I'd guess I'm suffering from post-winner syndhrome with this one. You know, when a song you might like or not wins (but which is certainly not your favourite) and you are quite content with that, but you start getting nitpicky with that song and start noticing those obvious errors and imperfections that you really didn't care about before?. One starts to notice Alexander's rather dodgy vocal performance, put's more importance to his whole irritability factor, and in general gives less importance to the things that previously made you put that winning song somewhat higher (like the originality of it, the cute-ish lyrics, nice choreography and extreme catchyness and memorability). This is admitelly one of those moments for me with Alexander's song (and some other ones which were previously higher) and the only thing I can think about at this moment about his performance is...

''Wow, he sings worse than what I remembered''

It might pass later on, but for now, I like 19 songs more than this one. Still a great winner though.


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Re: 2009: Reviews of the entries
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2009, 03:31:59 AM »


Switzerland
Lovebugs
The highest heights
(19th)


Will you catch me when I fall? Oh yeah
From the highest heights of all? Oh yeah


Let it be said that I absolutely hated their performance in ESC for starters, man, they blew it.

The highest heights itself is for most of the song a rather enjoyable and somewhat interesting song, with enjoyable lyrics and in studio a rather nice sound. Then we get to the ''Oh oh oh oh'' part and this just plummets. The rest of the song is quite good, but that last part actually partly ruins it. I doubt many people were surprised by this not qualifying after their performance either.


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